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To: The Rt Hon Matthew Hancock MP (Cabinet Office)

Official Recognition for our Veterans

Official Recognition for our Veterans

Fighting for official recognition for our forgotten Veterans and against the appalling treatment by the HD Committee after the recent Medallic recognition review.

Why is this important?

Imagine being asked to lay your life on the line for your Country, now imagine being given no option to do otherwise, this was the case for many of our National Servicemen. Imagine further being forced to stand and watch Nuclear explosions, without the knowledge it would cause you and your families serious medical issues and often death. Imagine you and your family running the risk of being shot or blown up every day, not in a war zone but here in the UK by PIRA just for wanting to defend our fellow countrymen. I’ll not ask you to imagine dozens of other scenarios our armed forces were asked to perform as part of their ‘normal duties’. You haven’t been asked to because others before us have done so for generations. They have previously asked for nothing in return, but we think they deserve an official symbol of this country’s gratitude.

This sounds like something any government would want to do doesn’t it? After all Her Majesty has already authorised similar recognition for our Kin in Australia and New Zealand. But Hang on, this governments says absolutely not!!

This doesn’t sound like something that could possibly happen in Britain in 2015. But for our Veterans reaching the twilight of their life see a Country that has forgotten these selfless acts of loyalty and duty in maintaining the freedoms we enjoy today.

The scandal of a recent medal review has been swept under a carpet and kept out of the public domain with Freedom of Information acts being rejected in order to protect a Government which openly sneers at our brave Veterans. Official documents will not be released, why?

Sign the petition now to make sure that the Cabinet Office and MOD hears our message: stop ignoring our veterans contribution and issue an NDM. Please click here to add your name:

Wherever you stand on our Armed Forces, treating our veterans in such a shabby and disrespectful way is not the decency mark of a civilised society. 38 Degrees members stand for fairness, and we work together to make Britain a more compassionate place. Fighting for recognition for our forgotten Veterans and against the appalling treatment of those most willing to protect our freedoms will help create the kind of Britain we want to see.

This is an issue of great National importance as it reflects the way in which our country values and recognises the commitment of those young men and women who keep our country safe and free. It takes into account the unique circumstances of serving in the armed forces, the loss of a high level of personal freedom, the inherent risk of being a member of the armed forces, being subject to Military law and the commitment of the individual to put country before self. It recognised and honours both those who serve now and will serve in the future and those who have served, been injured, maimed and killed in the line of duty regardless of when or where that duty took place.

Can you sign the petition now to give our veterans the recognition they deserve.

How it will be delivered

Depending on the number of signatures gained, but we will certainly consider hand delivery and a press conference.

Reasons for signing

  • I was on Christmas Island for five shots.
  • For my Great-Grandfather, both of my Grandfathers, my Grandmother, my Father, my Mother, my Brother and myself. 4 generations of service to our country.
  • what a discrace cheep veterans badge MP duck pond seems like money well spent good old MP give them self a pay rise


2017-01-19 22:27:30 +0000

7400 signatures reached.
Campaign Admin

2017-01-19 22:26:42 +0000

Multinational Force and Observers
Slightly off topic, but if there was anyone who served in the Sinai with the MFO on or after 3rd August 1981 then you will be pleased to know that the MFO Medal has finally been recognised and approved by HM The Queen. To be worn on the left after the LS & GC.
Campaign Admin

2016-11-25 23:48:09 +0000

The New Chairman has written to the Prime Minister regarding the NDM. You can view the letter here and the response from No 10.
Campaign Admin

2016-11-23 11:54:37 +0000

7,000 signatures reached
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2016-11-14 06:53:23 +0000

6,900 signatures reached
Campaign Admin

2016-10-04 12:11:05 +0100

The NDM Team have received the MoD's retracted version of the minutes of the meeting of the Advisory Military Sub Committee held on 29th August 2013. These will be published on line once the documents have been read in depth by the team. This has been a long legal process to get sight of these so our grateful thanks to Dr Martin Halligan for his sterling work to produce a positive result.
Campaign Admin

2016-09-15 10:21:56 +0100

6,800 signatures reached.
Campaign Admin

2016-09-06 12:27:25 +0100

Dear all,
This is just to let you know that I will be stepping down voluntarily as Chairman on the 7th September2016. I believe I have taken the fight forward as far as I can at the moment and it is time with a new prime Minister for a new driving force to take the helm.
On that account I am pleased to be handing over or back to Col Terry Scriven (Rtd). Terry is well versed in the campaign, having been central to the original proposal and will be in a safe pair of hands and is a man with great experience.
I’m sure you will all get fully behind Col Terry and give him all the support and assistance he needs to make this medal a reality.

2016-09-02 10:10:23 +0100

Some good news folks, the first of the decisions on our FOI challenge to see minutes of the HD Committee meeting has been upheld.
See here for full details of the appeal.

Our Thanks to Dr Martin Halligan for his sterling work on our behalf to get some transparence on the HD Cmmittee Decision process.

Campaign Admin

2016-08-04 22:43:53 +0100

One Veterans comments on the Government response:
"I can’t help thinking that the delay of 2 ½ months in replying to you letter was deliberate. Such a delay surely does not meet Civil Service guidelines and the apology for the delay is hollow. The fact that the great man, Richard Tilbrook, could not be bothered to even sign the letter himself, and delegated this simple task to good old Gary is also an indication of what they think of us. To quote the words of a Minister who diminished himself in debate in Westminster five months ago only adds insult to injury. It really is a disgrace. These little people run the country and it is virtually impossible to penetrate their defences unless you are one of them. Of course, politicians bring this upon themselves because they are the ones that allow it to happen. The tail wags the dog!"
I totally agree.
Campaign Admin

2016-08-04 22:42:03 +0100

Hi folks,

We have received a reply from the Cabinet Office to our letter to the PM of 15 May. Which basically states that neither the Government nor the HD Committee agree with the establishment of the NDM. No reference to our demand for a public enquiry nor any of the issues raised.

You can view the document by scrolling down to the last entry on the NDM re-buttal tab.

Campaign Admin

2016-07-28 16:29:43 +0100

It is with sadness that I have to announce the following:
(extract from facebook)
Roll of Honour: T.A.M. Thornton Anthony Martin Fowler,Major,RA (Rtd) DoD. 17/4/2016 A strong Advocate of the Waterloo Veterans Award and the NDM Campaign. RIP. Sincere Condolences to his familiy and friends. 'Commonwealth Veterans Association'

I only met Tam once very briefly at the London meeting. He seemed a tireless campaigner for the NDM and my thoughts go out to his friends and family.

2016-07-14 11:33:13 +0100

A small group from the Campaign Team met with Jason McCartney MP down at Westminster on the 12th July. The meeting was very positive and we received good suport and encouragement from Jason. He was one of the MPs who attended the Westminster debate on the 12th April and is keen to help us take the matter forward. Our thanks to Jason for his time and support it was greatly appreciated.
Campaign Admin

2016-06-12 21:15:35 +0100

6,700 signatures reached.
Campaign Admin

2016-06-12 17:45:21 +0100

Defence Secretary Awards New Medal GSM 08
Campaign Admin

2016-05-31 16:01:59 +0100

Those of you who missed out on the SIlver Jubilee Medal may be interested in this
"Silver Jubilee medal increased award campaign.
May I bring this petition to all members of this forum who may be entitled to this medal.
as funds are now available in the sliver jubilee trust a petition is being made to increase the award of the QSJM to ALL servicemen and women who were serving at the time.
Please sign this petition."
Campaign Admin

2016-05-29 14:17:47 +0100

At their conference RBL Scotland voted to call on the RBL to support the campaign for a National Defence Medal. The suggestion read out in open forum received overwhelming support, with only 2 hands against. Their CEO will now take this forward and report back to members.

Well done the Jocks for leading the way.

Following our open letter of the 15th May 2016 we have received a reply from the Prime Ministers Office that the matter is under consideration. Link here and scroll to end
Campaign Admin

2016-05-16 13:30:58 +0100

We have just received news that the RBL Inverness Branch have put forward a motion that the RBL amend their Charter to allow for the support of the National Defence Medal. This is excellent news. The motion was passed with overwhelming support and their CEO will now take this forward to the National Level.
Link here for details. (scroll to bottom on page)
A BIG thank you to all who stoood up to be counted.
Campaign Admin

2016-05-15 18:36:08 +0100

The Chairman has written an Open Letter to the Prime Minister regarding the shameful way in which the HD Committe dealt with the Recommendations from the Holmes Review.
He has also written to the Honours and Awards Committee regarding the case for a Cold War Medal which was never properly considered in its own right.
He has also responded to the last reply from the Cabinet Office and written again to Mark Lancaster MP who so artfully dodged saying anything in response to our original letter to him.
Copies of the communications can be found here:
Scroll to end.
Further the Campaign is now calling for a Public Enquiry into the handling by the HD Committee of the Holmes Review.
Campaign Admin

2016-05-15 07:58:55 +0100

6,600 signatures reached. Many thanks to all those who have recently signed up. Please keep spreading the word around family and friends. Appreciated
Campaign Admin

2016-05-13 22:27:32 +0100

6,500 signatures reached
Campaign Admin

2016-05-07 14:28:40 +0100

The Chairman did a short interview with BFBS Radio on the 4th May 2016. Given the connection and their funding via the MOD he wasn't able to say anything political and we are not 100% sure if the interview will actually get aired given the MODs opposition to the award, but feel free to spread the link if you wish. It sets out the purpose for the Campaign in simple terms.

Link Here: 2nd box down
Campaign Admin

2016-05-07 14:25:05 +0100

We received a reply from the Cabinet Office to our last letter of 30th March. It contained a so called answer to my letter to Mark Lancaster MP and Veterans Minister sent on the 7th March 2016 which of course didn't address the issues raised. What it does show is the total lack of respect and the contempt in whch the Governemnt hold veterans as Mr Lancaster couldn't even be bother to put pen to paper to answer direct questions on his misleading statements.

The remainder of the letter is much of the same old, same old. No change there then.

Link below and scroll down to the end:
Campaign Admin

2016-05-05 18:48:44 +0100

Charles Lovelace has just written to the Prime Minister. I believe his comments reflect what we all feel about the way in which the Government has treated this issue. Link here and scroll to end of page.

Campaign Admin

2016-05-04 20:11:11 +0100

6,400 signatures reached.
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2016-04-26 10:37:05 +0100

6,300 signatures reached. Many thanks to all who signed and for your thoughts and comments.
Campaign Admin

2016-04-22 16:05:27 +0100

6,200 signatures reached.
A BIG thank you to all for supporting the call for an NDM and a BIG thank you to all those MPs who turned up to voice their support for the medal in the debate on the 12th April 2016.
Campaign Admin

2016-04-14 16:13:42 +0100

Link to the debate on the 12th April 2016. An excellent representation from Kirsten Oswald MP. The Governemnt position was all over the place and Roy Wilson's remarks about Sir John Not Recommending the medal are simply nutrue.
Link here:
Campaign Admin

2016-03-31 23:30:14 +0100

I have place a copy of the latest reply from the Cabinet Office dated 23rd March under the NDM Rebuttal Tab along with a copy of our reply dated 30th March 2016. Link here and scroll to the bottom of the page.

Please encourage you local MP to attend the NDM debate on the 12th April and speak on your behalf.

Keep up the good work.
Campaign Admin

2016-03-31 12:41:56 +0100

6,100 signatures reached. Thanks to all who signed.
Campaign Admin

2016-03-29 10:30:44 +0100

Hi Ken,
There are may issues surrounding ex-service men/women from Pensions to Medical Care and Recognition of Service. Jonny Mercer MP spoke in the house just a few days ago about the issue of joined up medical care and I would recommend you contact him directly on this issue as this is separate from the NDM campaign. We would also suggest you consider starting your own campaign to raise awareness of the issue as we are sure you would receive great support from the Service Community. The Nuclear Test Victims Association is fully behind the NDM campaign although we do realise the importance of the issue you raise and would fully support your suggestion, it is a separate issue in its own right.
Campaign Admin

2016-03-28 11:45:26 +0100

Here is the text of the Press Release by the SNP regarding the debate on the 12th April 2016.
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2016-03-28 00:44:59 +0100

If anyone is thinking of attending the debate on the 12th April you can find all you need to know here. Please remember seating is limited.
Campaign Admin

2016-03-27 13:27:05 +0100

6,000 signatures reached. Thank you to all who recently signed and for the continued support from all. Your support and thoughts are greatly appreciated.
Campaign Admin

2016-03-25 09:37:47 +0000

Kirsten Oswald MP will be raising the issue of the NDM in a debate to be held in Westminster Hall in the Commons between 11am and 1130am on the 12th April 2016. Can I ask you all to email you MP and ask them to attend and support the Campaign. If you have the time could you go along to the meeting too. You will not be able to speak and must remain silent during the debate but a small show of strength and support would be good, plus we can always speak after outside Westminster.
Campaign Admin

2016-03-25 09:33:22 +0000

Veterans in Canada are requesting recognition for their servicemen and women much in keeping with our own demand for the NDM here in the UK. They have an e-petition you can sign up to to show you support; Link here:
Like the NDM a justified campaign so we hope you add you views, it only takes a minute or two. You need to be a Canadian Citizen to sign the petition.
Campaign Admin

2016-03-13 12:39:05 +0000

5,800 signatures reached. Thank you to all who signed.
Campaign Admin

2016-03-07 16:50:53 +0000

5,700 signatures reached. Thank you to all those who contacted Chris Grayling MP regarding his pathetic and ill informed remarks in the House on 3rd March.
Campaign admin

2016-03-05 11:38:46 +0000

Kirsten Oswald MP raised the question of the NDM in the House on 3rd March.
Campaign Admin

2016-02-28 20:54:56 +0000

5,600 signatures reached
Campaign Admin

2016-02-28 15:46:14 +0000

Over the years there has been growning concern from members about the lack of support from the RBL. See below. Following on from some specific complaints I have again writtten to the Chairman voicing out concerns about what appears to be a conflict of interests posed by their involvement and support of the unofficial medals industry. A copy of our concerns can be found here: (see last entry). Members and supporters can judge for themselves.
Campaign Admin

2016-02-28 15:41:05 +0000

A BIG thank you to Bob Mawbey who sent us in 14 pages of paper based signatures he had collected. We are starting to input these to add to the growing numbers voicing their concerns about the lack of recognition for our forces.
Campaign Admin

2016-02-20 11:36:42 +0000

Calum Kerr SNP is raising a question in the House on the 29th February 2016 regarding the "progress" on the NDM. I would urge you all to email your MPs and ask them to join in on this important question on your behalf.
Campaign Admin

2016-02-17 22:30:14 +0000

Note: RBL members have since suggested that a list of names in support of this motion is compiled at each RBL Branch including letters of support and sent to RBL National HQ to be included in the Agenda.
Campaign Admin

2016-02-17 22:28:53 +0000

Some food for thought:
Over 10 years ago now the Royal British Legion executive were asked to support the National Defence Medal for veterans.
They turned it down indicating they did not support medal campaigns. We have since found out companies who sell badges and commemorative medals 'Bling' make a donation to RBL as a percentage of each one sold.

In accordance with the RBL Royal Charter 1925, it permits members to raise a motion to make an amendment to their Royal Charter that can enable their organisation to support recognition of defence service of veterans who served at some time in HM Armed Forces since 1945.

Our British Veterans are requesting all RBL members to do just that at either a Special Meeting or at their next Annual Conference at Eastbourne in 2016.
Campaign Admin

2016-02-13 15:20:11 +0000

Following concerns from members and supporters regarding the Royal British Legions position on the NDM I wrote to their Chairman. Correspondence regarding the RBL stance can be viewed here.
How different to our frineds in Australia and New Zealand.
Campaign Admin

2016-02-13 15:17:30 +0000

The Cabinet Office kindly replied to our last letter, but I'm afraid no movement there nor any answers to our questions!
Link here: see last item.
Campaign Admin

2016-02-13 15:13:18 +0000

We have received the following from our friends in New Zealand. Tthe Royal New Zealand Returned Services Association (RNZRSA) whose National President stated: "Your request for support was raised at our National Forum meeting on Wednesday, 9th February 2016 and received total support." Similar support has already been received from the Australian Headquarters of the Returned Services League.
Campaign Admin

2016-02-07 10:51:26 +0000

5,400 signatures reached.
Campaign Admin

2016-01-27 13:22:56 +0000

We will be sending out an update to members shortly, in the mean time you can view the current responses from the MOD and our replies here:
I would encourage everyone to write to both their Local MP and the Cabinet Office, a suggested template can be found in the link.
Campaign Admin

2016-01-27 11:27:35 +0000

5, 300 SIgnatures reached.
Campaign Admin

2016-01-23 07:20:24 +0000

5,200 signatures reached.
Again, many thanks to all who recently signed up.
Campaign Admin

2016-01-06 05:12:17 +0000

5,100 signatures reached
Many thanks to all. Welcome to 2016.
Campaign Admin

2015-12-23 12:36:32 +0000

5000 signatures reached.
This is excellent folks, many thanks and a Merry Christmas to all who have shown support for the campaign.
Campaign Admin

2015-12-23 12:02:29 +0000

5,000 signatures reached

2015-12-22 12:51:06 +0000

4,900 signatures reached.
Campaign Admin

2015-12-21 12:47:05 +0000

4,800 signatures reached.
Campaign Admin

2015-12-16 16:13:04 +0000

4,700 signatures reached.
A big thank you to all who recently signed. As we near the festive season please continue to spread the word far and wide. Your efforts are much appreciated.
Campaign Admin

2015-12-06 13:59:19 +0000

4,600 signatures reached.
Thank you to all who showed support, keep spreading the word.
Campaign Admin

2015-11-06 20:14:05 +0000

4,500 signatures reached.
Thank yout to everyone who signed up so far.
Campaign Admin

2015-10-27 22:03:09 +0000

Some of you may not be aware of this speech in 2010 by Colonel (Retd) Terry Scriven. We are pleased to say that those connected to the Berlin Airlift did finally receive recognition. The video although made some years ago still reflects the purpose of the campaign and is well worth a viewing.

Campaign Admin

2015-10-14 16:09:47 +0100

4,400 signatures reached.
Campaign Admin

2015-10-13 19:33:38 +0100

Below is a link to an interview with veteran Roy Wilson held at Radio Harold Hill. It is quite a long interview with a musical interlude but well worth a listen too.

Campaign Admin

2015-10-08 16:05:54 +0100

The petition has been amended to emphasise that this is a matter of great National importance as such an award reflects the countries attitude towards the armed forces, and to make it clear that such an award has value and worth. It is not just an award for past service but for present and future service too.
Part of the text which related to the pre election criteria has been removed as it was no longer valid.
Campaign Admin

2015-09-30 20:39:37 +0100

4300 signatures reached.
Campaign Admin

2015-09-19 17:09:30 +0100

4,200 signatures reached
Campaign Admin

2015-09-16 18:35:29 +0100

Our thanks to Brian and Shaun for taking part in the short piece on BBC North East. The programme was viewed by about half a million people, so perhaps others will start to look at this issue in more depth and find out what the campaign is all about.

link to item

Campaign Admin

2015-09-14 19:16:23 +0100

Hi folks,

Tune in to 1830hrs on BBC North East on the 15th Sep. Several of the members will be on TV talking about the NDM.
Campaign Admin

2015-09-04 22:51:14 +0100

4100 signatures reached. Thank you to all = keep spreading the word.
Campaign Admin

2015-08-21 22:17:54 +0100

4000 signatures reached. Now we need to double this, so please continue to spread the word. A BIG thank you to all those who have signed so far.
Campaign Admin

2015-08-12 19:19:47 +0100

3,800 signatures reached

2015-08-03 22:29:45 +0100

We're please to tell supporters that Miss Joanna Lumley has given her backing to the campaign to quote from her letter "...a National Defence medal would be completely in order: ....." She wishes us all very, very good luck with the campaign.
Campaign Admin

2015-08-01 17:46:08 +0100

A BIG thank you to all those who just recently signed up to support the campaign. Keep spreading the word everyone to your friends and colleagues. Your support is vital and very much appreciated.
Campaign Admin.

2015-08-01 00:23:10 +0100

3,500 signatures reached

2015-07-30 15:45:59 +0100

Hi folks,
There is a rumour going around that the Government wishes to amend the Freedom of Information Act. They wish to limit the amount and type of information that can be requested. This would be very bad news for the Campaign as it was mainly through FOI requests that the Campaign Team were able to force a second medals review, later carried out by Sir John Holmes, which resulted in the belated award of the Bomber Command Clasp, Artic Convoy Medal and recognition for those who served in the Berlin Airlift.
Perhaps this is one reason they have denied the Team sight of the full report from Sir John?If they can stall long enough and the bill gets amended then we will lose the opportunity to find out what really went on during the HD Committee meetings and what they have to hide.
This would be a massive blow to democracy – the very thing Veterans served to defended!
Campaign Admin

2015-07-29 17:13:24 +0100

Here's a link to a video that came out in 2009, and shows the scope and reasons why the campaign exists.

The question is really why any Government would NOT want to recognise service in Defence of the Nation?

Campaign Admin

2015-07-23 16:05:22 +0100

Hi folks,

When you read the comments added by the Veterans it reminds us all why this campaign is so important. The Conservative Party in the form of the Government have dismissed the very strong case put forward by the National Defence Medal Team. Whilst we were promised that the review would be open and transparent and that the various Veterans Groups the NDM covers would be consulted, this never happened. Instead what appears to be a very short review was held in secrecy and since then the MOD have shut up shop refusing to answer any requests the Team have made to them to discover on what basis they made their decision.

Whilst the rate of signatures supporting the campaign has slowed that was to be expected as the summer holidays kicked in, but if you can all re-double your individual efforts to spread the word then hopefully we can keep things on track and show substantial public support for this long over-due recognition. Thanks again for signing. Campaign Admin.

2015-07-19 18:40:12 +0100

3,311 signatures so far; excellent and thank you all. We hope you are all enjoying the good weather providing it’s in your area! Would there be anyone out there with a contact in the printing industry or anyone who would have the time and like to get a bit more active in the campaign?

We’d like to establish contacts across the country so that any future action could be done at a National Level. As past negotiations so far have been conducted in a very business like way then much of what goes on is somewhat invisible unless you have the time to visit the main site and read all the background and past documents. If you'd like to get involved please contact the Campaign Website.
Many thanks Campaign Admin.

2015-07-14 18:16:41 +0100

Firstly a BIG Thank You to all those who have signed up so far and thank you to those who have taken the time to add a comment or story. Your support is very much appreciated. Can we ask you to spread the word through friends and family please, we would like to try and reach as many people as possible. The campaign is off to a good start and will go a long way to help raise public awareness of the struggle for proper recognition for our veterans. Campaign Admin.

2015-06-24 20:29:49 +0100

1,000 signatures reached

2015-06-24 10:42:17 +0100

500 signatures reached

2015-06-24 08:15:57 +0100

If you haven't seen the recent NDM video now is as good a time as any, the message is clear:

2015-06-23 16:44:07 +0100

100 signatures reached

2015-06-23 15:54:03 +0100

50 signatures reached

2015-06-23 15:42:36 +0100

25 signatures reached

2015-06-23 13:27:26 +0100

10 signatures reached