2018-12-12 16:57:55 +0000
Please have a look at this and buy the Oldham Times tomorrow if you can.
'We told you so'. Fence protestors message to Network Rail
via social media and in person using a mobile device in the location
press conference also
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Please have a look at this and buy the Oldham Times tomorrow if you can.
'We told you so'. Fence protestors message to Network Rail
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We have asked many times for the maps to go with the survey that shows where protected species are and have still not been sent the maps. The council are taking this up as they have had enough.
A bat survey is being carried out very soon by the local authorities which will answer many of your questions regarding if Network Rail have in fact disturbed a protected species which can carry a jail sentence and unlimited fines.
NR also promised to camouflage the Pointless Fence with ivy and other creepers.
Send any questions you have and post here if you are not happy about anything.
Quick one - those that live nearby will have seen that Network Rail have started [not finished] painting the dreadful fence that nobody wants and serves no purpose green.
A lot of people are saying the same thing 'it was a crappy silver fence and now it is a crappy green fence' and we entirely agree.
We did ask Network Rail to leave the ends where they seem to be sensitive and take down the middle. However so far they have said no, not giving a reasonable reason why.
We have asked them to replace trees and they said no, without giving a reasonable explanation. However they did offer to give the community some money to plant elsewhere. We have yet to see the details of this.
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One more thing - here is an excerpt from a letter that the group sent to Network Rai last week:
'We sometimes feel that we have been at a different meeting to you and your colleagues...
We are sorry that you feel that you cannot replant the trees chopped down, but we cannot understand that you feel trees lower down the banking could not be replaced. Trees cannot jump 40 feet in the air and over the bank. Those trees were chopped down purely to make the fence easier to put up. We want those trees replacing. We ask for you to give the community some money to plant plants where the community sees fit by way of good will not only for all the damage done, the poor attitude, but also for all the time this has taken many volunteers who are still not satisfied with what you are doing...'
[The time being OVER FOUR MONTHS]
If you want to make sure Network Rail change their approach please contact your local Woodland Trust .
Public must tell Network Rail to stop tree felling, says charity
Don't let them get away with what they are doing they have already showed they do not care about wildlife, chopping trees down mid-nesting season.
Near the Pointless Fence were a pair of Jays, Owls, Bats, Foxes, Deer, and a host of other creatures that have no say when Network Rail trash their habitat.
NR are painting fence at the moment and are going to hide it with ivy and honeysuckle. It may not take as the area is infested with Himalyan Balsam.
Dozens of local people are concerned that NR have disturbed bats, a protected species. Any crime in this area carries a 6 month prison sentence and unlimited fines. The local council have commissioned a survey to check this.
In short, p*ss poor approach. Not impressed.
We did receive an apology last week which was something.
But in short it is very clear that what the Guardian described as Network Rail's 'Slash and Burn Approach' is accurate and correct. The Woodland Trust are the latest organisation to ask them to stop chopping down trees.
NR contractors are allowed to take the timber they chop down away to sell at a profit without paying for it. An incentive to chop as many trees down as they possibly can.
Ok we asked NR to take most of the fence down where it serves no purpose leaving the bits near where they are sensitive about the fence. They refused giving no reasonable reason.
On the other side of the track they have put in a wooden and wire fence in keeping with the area however the industrial fence on the other side we have asked them to swap it and have not had a reply to that request. So wood is ok on one side, but not the other?
They have refused to replace trees that were chopped down to make room for the Pointless Fence. We have asked them for community money to replace the vegetation. The reason given for not replacing trees does not make sense.
If NR had put in a fence next to the track before chopping down trees [mid nesting season] then none of this would have happened. Some fwd thinking required. NR seem keen to blame children for a trespass risk they in fact created.
in today's Oldham Times
please tell your friends
we had a reply from Network Rail which was full of inaccuracies. It's like it's some kind of joke. They are either totally incompetent or trying to deliberately ignore the facts...
It's 3 weeks tomorrow since our first sit down meeting with Network Rail after more than three months - so that's almost 4 months.
Response?
ZERO
What do you think of that?
Thanks for all the messages. It's exactly what was said at all the meeting we have had so far thank you.
474 Friends of Saddleworth
Quick Q - What would you say to Network Rail if they try to refuse to move the fence? How would you feel about that? Please post a reply here on the reasons for signing bit or just message us.
We have been very clear with N R about what people want.
Let's keep the clarity.
Please reply right away, we want to know what you think and we want to know right now.
If you don't tell us we will not know!
Not everyone can make the meetings. We understand that.
We had a sit down meeting last Thu with Network Rail after over three months.
People were present from this petition, local residents, of Saddleworth & Uppermill, council leaders.
Everything we asked for they said no.
They refused to restore Den Lane to its former glory. Chris Pye the boss of this part of the track refused to replace trees. He did agree to replace them with something under pressure.
We did not get satisfactory answers as to why they yet again refused to move the fence, as to how they have behaved regarding wildlife, including bats, why they chopped trees down mid-nesting season, nor why it has taken this long to get the meeting, why their CEO has yet to reply to any correspondance.
Their PR did not know exactly what had happened . She was either badly briefed or didn't bother to do her homework. We did ask them not to send a PR.
We will wait and see what they exactly do but they made clear promises & we will hold them to account.
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